DRO: Isn’t it limiting, though, that your cars are still supposed to at least look streetable and aren’t supposed to have any advertising on them?

Kirk: Yeah, but we’re trying to get to where we could at least put something on the quarter panels. To me, you’re gonna’ have to have that because it’s getting so expensive to do this. You’ve got to have an NHRA-level pro set-up to do this deal right. If you haven’t got back-up motors, and back-up transmissions, and back-up this and that, you’re not gonna’ make it to the finals with any consistency. Before this year is over, you’ll see people changing motors between rounds.

DRO: What’s the level of competition in the class, especially regarding the quality of drivers?

Kirk: I’ll tell you what, if you go down and look at the reaction times and the consistency of these cars from yesterday and today, you’re going to find these guys are dead on. I’d put this whole group of Outlaw 10.5 drivers right up there with anybody in the pro ranks. I mean, you can go look at just about anybody’s ticket and you’ll see a four-oh light, a four-ten light, or a four-twenty light. And that’s what it takes to win; there ain’t nobody givin’ up nothin’ here. Everybody’s looking for the edge.

DRO: Is it fun racing, though?

Kirk: Oh yeah, it’s fun, this is a great bunch of guys to race with. But it’s a full-time job, too; we promote our business out of doing this deal.

DRO: What would it cost if someone wanted to get into this type of racing? What would a turn-key operation cost?

Kirk: A competitive turn-key car is gonna’ run you about $150,000, and then you’ve got your customer preferences. So it’s not a cheap class. In the late-‘90s people were taking older back-halved cars and putting big cubic-inch motors in there and going out and running 4.90s, and at that time that was great. Now, it requires state-of-the-art chassis and state-of-the-art tune-ups, and there’s guys out here testing every day of the week to do this right.

DRO: What does it take these days to be competitive?

Kirk: You have to be able to run a 4.68 to a 4.72 with a .420 reaction time and that will get you to the final round at just about any race.

DRO: What does this class offer potential sponsors?

Kirk: Well, just like the pro classes in NHRA and IHRA, we’ve got the big rigs and they can be just like a rolling billboard heading down the highway. We’re out here two or three days each weekend between testing on Friday, qualifying Saturday, and racing on Sunday. And
we’re out here every weekend, continuously up and down the roads, usually two or three days a week.

DRO: Do you see this class taking off nationally the way Pro Mod eventually did, or will it always be just a popular class at the eighth-mile southeastern tracks?

Kirk: I think it will come around. I mean, last year we had a $20,000-to-win race at Huntsville and we had 56 cars show up. So, that’ll tell you what’s out there. And there’s talk of an organization out of Texas that’s basically got the same style of cars with big tires and they’ve turned that whole program into a 10-inch tire deal. So that’s going to really increase how many cars you can get to these races, especially later on in the year where there’s larger payouts.

DRO: What would you want people to know about your race team?

Kirk: Just that we’re die-hard racers. It takes a lot of work and a lot of effort, and my guys at the shop work 24-hours-a-day, sometimes seven-days-a-week to get this car ready. Plus, my wife Lynne is behind me a hundred percent, along with my stepdaughter, Brooke. We’ve also got two team guys, Michael Lynch and Ronnie McGibbony, and it takes everybody’s support to run this operation, no question about it.

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